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Calliope
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wondered, because you remind me of myself when I was a teenager.

Which family of Druids in Ireland? Do you live in Ireland? I once had contacts there with a Wiccan Priestess (but She was Alexandrian, not Druidic). Were they part of the ADF, or the OBOD?

And you have read all of Mama $ilvers books? Have you read any of the controversies surrounding her?

I'm sorry...I just think you need to expand your knowledge base a little more. You seem very angry, and argumentative (and yes, there is a difference between argumentative and debating), and very close-minded when it comes to beliefs that don't match your own.

Also, when I was being taught in a Coven, the most important thing was how you expressed yourself. Especially through writing. Some may take you more seriously if you pay more attention to spelling, grammar, and sentence structure.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calliope wrote:
You seem very angry


I agree with that. Is there something Christians have done to you that makes you hate them so?

There are plenty of Christians who are good people, just as there are plenty of Pagans who are a$$holes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article from religioustolerance.org :

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl1.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know sometimes i see a little angry. I've been let's say I've meet christians who didn't like Witches and thought it fun to.......you can fill that in. I'm open to all other paths. It's just christians I don't bother much with. And yes I can't spell to save my life. And I'm not a teen, I'm 21. Yes I have read all of Silvers teaching books. I've been kicked off a few sites for standing up for her. I have my own Coven The Coven of the Moon Goddess. I founded this year, about 4 months ago. It is small only 10 people. I have sent many emails to Silver, asking questions about the Craft, and got some replys. I try to go word for word or the Witchs code says to, but in todays world, its a hard thing to do. Blessings Ravenfire.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calliope wrote:
Interesting article from religioustolerance.org :

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_bibl1.htm


Why are you giving us the link to this article Calliope?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Witches have been Witches sense the beining of time. Christians are tyring to cover their ass. Don't feed me this sh*t.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article discusses how the bible and Christianity has viewed Witchcraft. Just thought it would be appropriate to have an article from a neutral source regarding christian vs. Witchcraft.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RavenFire wrote:
Christians are tyring to cover their ass. Don't feed me this sh*t.

Christianity is a valid religion and I don't mind Christians as long as they don't try to convert me.

My father is a minister and I've met more Christians than everyone in this forum combined has had hot dinners. Yes, some of them are "Sunday Christians" just as we have "Weekend Witches", but there are some who believe deeply in the bone.

I worked with one who was learning Ancient Greek so he could read the New Testament in it's original. He (and anyone of any religion who does this) has my deep respect, so don't give me this "Christians are trying to cover their ass" s**t. Get out and learn about them - or maybe you're so aggressive they feel they have to defend themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have not delt with more chirstians then me, I use to be one! So don't give ME that shit. I know the bible cover to cover. Inside and out, ALL versions. Don't tell me to read about them. I was one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RavenFire wrote:
You have not delt with more chirstians then me, I use to be one! So don't give ME that shit.


So what? I used to be one too. Open your tiny little mind and actually think for once in your life. Do you not realise that ANYONE can be a Christian? Remember that Jesus accepted Tax Collecters and Prostitutes and that was as low as you can get (at that time) in Judaic society!

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I know the bible cover to cover. Inside and out, ALL versions. Don't tell me to read about them. I was one.


I seriously doubt that as there are so many versions of the Bible out there these days and one that is published in the UK will not necessarily be published in the US and vice versa. Besides which, have you read the versions pre-date the Nycene convention? I doubt that, it would be d*mned hard to get your hands on a copy of one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So true, QuercusRobur!

I've read 7 different versions of the Bible, and that's only the tip of how many are out there! I even found one in an antique book store that had, with the regular "parts" of the Bible, "East" "South" "North" "West". Unfortunately it was very much out of my price range, but I believe it was an older Catholic Bible, which I have searched for online, but haven't found yet. And I've never seen another bible like that again. Sad

But yes...there is an arrogance within Ravenfire, which is only evident in the uneducated and inexperienced.

Just wait 'til real life bashes him in the head.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnifex wrote:
Morgaine,



Morgaine, the mormons are as christian as any of the others. They, for the most part, adhere to the christian doctrines, and have the same god/jesus, heaven/hell, satan/demons, ect., ect., mythologies. They just have some peculiar dogmatics to go with it. The word christian merely denotes one who believes in the jesus/christ mythology, and attempts to ahdere to these teachings.


Carnifex


Carnifex, you are right about the Mormons being Christians, however they do not believe in a hell as most other Christians do. Mormons believe in three degrees of heaven, Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial, they believe that even murders will go to the lowest level. Their version of hell is what they call Outer Darkness reserved only for the Sons of Perdition. It's been a long time, so not positive about this point, but I think the SOP's were those who committed the unforgivable sin.

Another point about Mormons most people don't know is that they believe in a Mother Goddess as well as a Heavenly Father. Unfortunately that is not reflected in most of their teachings as far as honoring Her. It's not talked about much and women are certainly not allowed in the Aaronic or Melchizedek Priesthoods.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: A Favorite Site of Mine Reply with quote

http://home.earthlink.net/~pgwhacker/ChristianOrigins/

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Magick ate my Dogma... :S That's all I have to say.
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